Pope Francis now wishes to change scripture, specifically the Lord's Prayer.
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I not gonna judge the man.God Author not the coauthor he will bring judgement on himself and his followers yes I believe he is wrong very wrong.Jesus Christ thought us to pray the prayer in faith Red letters kjv is all this world has left I would not follow that man much less put my faith in him Jesus Christ is the only one that could change it but he won’t because God does not ever change not even with the times nor respects no man.know that he is wrong don’t judge him that’s what the deceiver wants your relationship is personal with God and is as unique as you are.
She is the dispenser of all graces. God wants it that way. Love Her n respect Her, n u'll see the light... trust me, She directed me to Jesus, that's Her job.. She guides everyone to Him... we can't go to Heaven without loving our Heavenly Mother.. blessings
The Blessed Mother will help us these difficult times. God wants it that way. That doesn't mean Jesus is third. No! He is our Savior. She intercedes 4 us. We love Her n respect Her just 4 bring the Mother of Jesus. We can't go to Jesus without Mary.
You seem as twisted ad your words. You quote an english version of the Our Father as If useing variations is akin to blasphemy. You aknowledg that Jesus did not speak english so every word you used was a departure from the words Jesus taught. Not all english versions of the Our Father are exactly The same. An example of this is; in Sotland they use forgive our debts rather than trespassers.
The phrase 'lead us not' is old English and dose not have quite the same meaning as a modern translation would make of it. It's meaning is more akin to 'keep us from'
As the Our Father is a translation form the original any variation in translation is still a translation as the one quoted in the video
¡Católicos! ¿Por qué el Papa Francisco ataca a los homosexuales si el y la mayor parte de los curas son homosexuales? ¡Esto se llama en términos sicológicos proyectar lo que uno es para cubrir ante la sociedad como lo hace un closeted (encerado) pastor homosexual que pueden ser peor que el diablo. Este Papa Francisco sabe que hay muchos jotos (homosexuales de los chuecos) y que la mitad de ellos tienen sexos con si mismo. No usan condones. Este Papa infeliz dice que es mejor que una persona adquiera SIDA a que use un Condón. Lo que el esta diciendo es que tengamos más y más hijos aunque no los podamos mantener o educar. Si el mismo Papa Francisco es maricon y no se sabe si es pasivo, activo o muy hábil y le da por los dos lados. Como tanto maricon desviado existe en la iglesia, hasta más del 15 por ciento, ellos se deben de hacer el Papanicolaou anal cada año contra el cáncer transmitido for el HPV. Si alguien le confiesa a este Papa que el violó a un niño, el no lo reporta a la autoridad. Según el, con su perdón es suficiente. ¿Usted cree que esto es correcto? Cuando el agente estadounidense Robert Hansen le confesó al cura que el espiaba contra Estados Unidos a través de los rusos que había resultado en asesinatos de agentes del FBI por los rusos. El consejo que le dio el cura, “Ya no lo hagas y reza más”. Ese mismo consejo le dieron a la junta militar en Argentina. El Papa ha dicho que “la iglesia esta aquí preferencialmente para los pecadores”. ¿Por qué se mete el Papa en el tema del aborto cuando Dios causa miles de abortos cada año porque los fetos vienen con defectos? Este maricon no se puede meter en los derechos privados de cada mujer. El prefiere que un chamaco embarazare a una chamaca de 15 años a que este burro se masturbe. ¿Puede usted ser más consiente y lógico? ¿Ya saben del trato que hizo el Papa con Hitler que resultó en el asesinato de 6 millones de Judíos? ¿Usted sabia que la iglesia castró a más de 100,000 niños por su voz pagándoles a los papas y ofreciéndoles la gloria a los niños inocentes? ¿Sabe usted que la mitad de los Católicos no terminan la preparatoria mientras todos los Judíos la terminan? Se ha dicho que el cociente de inteligencia del más Católico es de 85 a 90 mientas el promedio común es 100 en Estados Unidos y 103 en Alemania. El de mi hija es de 165+ y lo digo con orgullo porque ella esta contribuyendo a la sociedad, no a la suciedad. Tenemos un retraso mental por culpa de estos curas. Por eso su hijo fracasa en la escuela. ¿Eso quiere decir que la iglesia nos esta haciendo más pendejos en cada generación? ¿Cuándo ha visto usted que en la Navidad los curas andan repartiendo ropa, juguetes o comida a los niños pobres en los ranchos cuando el Vaticano esta tupido de lujo y tiene en su banco más de 300,000 millones de dólares. ¿Sabia usted que el Banco del Vaticano ha sido el banco d la mafia Italiana y se dice que en México la iglesia ayuda a lavar dinero del narco? El Papa se opone a la anticoncepción para que tengamos hijos y darles más negocio en los sacramentos. ¿Qué no cobran por todos? A los que más roban son a nuestros mexicanos de Guerrero y Chiapas. La iglesia tiene hospitales privados como St. Joseph’s, St. Mary’s y St. Judith y cuando le dicen al pobre en misa, “si están enfermos, vayan a nuestros hospitales y los trataremos gratuitamente”? ¿Sabia usted que la iglesia ha quemado gente por leer la Biblia en ingles? Ellos decían la misa en Latin antes porque el contenido de la Biblia es de un contenido intelectual muy bajo y en Latin suena más importante. ¿Usted cree en la ficciones que son el tema de Adan y Eva, La Arca de Noé y que la mujer viene de la costilla del hombre? En la Biblia sabe que le dijo Lot (un hombre) a la mechidumbre afuera de su casa, “Tengo dos hijas vírgenes que no han estado con un hombre; hagan con ellas lo que quieran pero no toquen a mis huéspedes”. Despues, las hijas de Lot lo emborracharon para violarlo y salir “embarazadas con Papá”. No da asco pensar que los hijos de Adan y Noé tuvieron sexo entre ellos cuando esto no lo permite Dios. Despues del diluvio, Noe se pasó desnudo y borracho teniendo sexo con sus propias hijas. Cuando el cura le dice a usted, “ten los hijos que Dios te de”, ¿que no es un pecado porque usted no los va a poder mantener o educar y van a pedirle ayuda al que trabaja duro para pagar los impuestos? ¿Usted cree que se mira bien que una pareja tuvo 8 hijos usando el sistema social costando más de $140,000.00 dólar por año cuando el esposo gana $11 dólares por hora? ¿Es correcto que el vecino pague por los partos de la esposa de el? Las personas que usan el calendario para planificación la mitad sale embarazadas al año. Si un niño huérfano carece de amor de padre y madre, estos son los niños que los curan buscan para violar dándoles primero cariño de padre. Una vez me llegó un joven llorando pidiéndome la prueba de sida ya que el cura que lo había violado de niño acababa de morir de SIDA. Una señora no reportó al padre violador de su hija porque ya se lo había confesado al cura. Yo llamé la policía. Le jerarquía de la iglesia ha dicho que quiere creyentes con un cociente de inteligencia baja para así más fácil hacerlos tontos y hacerlos parir hijo tras hijo para que la iglesia tenga más clientes. En mi pueblo, Cosalá, yo miré al cura sexualmente abusar de los monaguiños y uno en la Cruz Elota un cura quiso violar a mi madre quien lloraba porque no teníamos para comer porque me padre se negó a pagarnos el sustento. Cuando los caciques estaban ocupados en sus negocios en Cosalá, yo miraba como los curas no jotos le daban servicio sexual a sus esposas. La historia dice claramente que la peor iglesia en los años del 1930’s fue la Católica cual apoyó a Hitler y a Franco en España como después apoyó la junta militar de Argentina que asesinó a más de 10,000 estudiantes. Sepan que nada se sabe de los primeros 30 años de la vida de Jesucristo y que el nunca supo leer o escribir. ¿Usted cree que Dios sacrificó a su único hijo por nosotros cuando Dios también tuvo hijos como Isaac Newton, Albert Einstein, Plato, Sócrates y Tesla? Usted bautizaría al hijo de un asesino, secuestrador o violador de niñas o mujeres? La iglesia lo hace todo el tiempo en México sin reportarlo a las autoridades. Súbale la bata al Papa Francis y verá lo maricon que es y que analmente no es virgen. Si no es cierto, el me puede demandar y en el proceso puedo descubrir más de sus pecados. Por favor no le lea a sus hijos las ficciones que son Adan y Eva y la Arca de Noe. No confíen en lo que los curan les dicen durante la primera comunión. Todo niño nace sin pecado y no ocupa ser bautizado. Este Papa habló mucho de “la familia” porque quiere que sigamos calentando al mundo pariendo como escopetas. Por eso, Puerto Rico esta tan jodido y pronto se lo tragará el mar. Ya les hemos avisado que la nueva iglesia Católica se llama Alfa Omega 65 y solamente nosotros representamos la verdad y Dios. Ya conocemos quien va a ser el siguiente presidente de Estados Unidos y una carta de recomendación por Alfa Omega 65 le seria muy útil si se quiere emigrar y solamente la va a recibir si se ha hecho parte de nuestra iglesia. No tome las palabras del Papa Francisco a pecho porque les habla el diablo y ellos no tienen nada que ver con Dios. Estados Unidos reconoce que la miseria y pobreza en toda Latino America en parte se debe a los curas y al Papa. Para salvar el planeta, la abeja y la selva, tenemos que tener menos hijos, uno o dos por pareja. Dios condena al que planifica como los mensos usando el calendario. El Papa o los curas no representan a Dios. Ellos simplemente representan un buen negocio.
ONE OF THE CATHOLIC PREYER SAYS: GOD SAVE YOU MARY ,FULL OF GRACE YOU ARE. / (JESUS IN THE FLESH BY THAT TIME DIDN'T GO TO THE CROSS FOR OUR REDEMTION SO MARY NEEDED TO BE REDEEMED, THE SECOND PART SHE WAS FULL OF GRACE AND MERCY , iT DOEN'T SAY FULL OF THE HOLY SPIRIT BECAUSE THE FIST TIME THE CAME TO THE CHURCH WAS AFTER THE RESURRECTION OF JESUS IN PENTECOST. pHILIPPIAN 2:11..JESUCRISTO ES ELSEÑOR...YESHUA MESHIAH ADON..... IN WHOM WE HAVE REDENPTION.
Matthew 7:15-20 ESV / 9 helpful votes
“Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. You will recognize them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? So, every healthy tree bears good fruit, but the diseased tree bears bad fruit. A healthy tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a diseased tree bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.
The living Spirit of Christ" was never in the popes, otherwise they would not exist. Self-glorification and calling yourself Holy Father. An upside down cross is worshiped as an icon of St. Peter. It is the symbol of a sword. This suits all the acts of violence and wars that the Roman Catholic Church has led, encouraged, inspired or accompanied. Neither Jesus nor one of the disciples fit in with the Catholic Church. Also not Peter.
Fracis = you an Idiot makeing your self ready for 1 way ticket to Hell and than Lake of fire SHAME ON YOU TO PUT OUR LORD DOWN = JESUS CHRIST ONLY HOLY FATHER . WHO DIED FOR US .francis go to hell.JESUS IS COMING SOON TO DISTROY YOU.
Stop. You are wrong. I wrote u about the prayer. ...i would have to hear what he said.....noncatholics have no idea. ..know nothing about our theology. Like i said heritical has poured oit of his mouth.
You know, no you don't, english is not his first language.You will always find something to critise.The fact is you cannot be right until you prove the catholic church wrong.What power this church has over you. Why not tell people about Jesus instead of telling them about the catholic church. Looks to me like you are suffering from catholic envy.
Our Father, who art in Heaven hallowed be Thy name.
Thy kingdom come Thy will be done on earth as it is in Heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread and forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us.
Lead us not into temptation but deliver us from evil.
For thine is the kingdom, the power and the glory.
For ever and ever
This is how I learned the Lord's prayer as a child and this is the way I will always say it.
We as Catholics pray for each other,not bash each other.
Our Pope needs our prayers ,our Priests need our prays, I need your prayers , you need our prayers.
We are in a battle for our soul everyday.
SiA LODATO GESU CRISTO!!!
The Catholic Church is Christ's Church that gives hope to mankind. As a loving mother, Mary works with her Son to lead us to Him and His Church. This mirrors how she allowed God to become incarnate within herself so that we would be lead to Christ Incarnate.
Understand one thing first the Novus ordo is not Catholic church it is Protestant formulated by Protestants ministers in the mid 60s under archbishop Bugini by the permission of Pope Paul the 6th, stop calling the Novus ordo Catholic when it is not, only the authentic church established by Christ who is God is Orthodox Catholic, Catholic being officially applied to the church both east and west in 107 a d in Antioch, since Vatican 2 not all but nearly every pope Bishop or Priest of the new mass has been heretical in teaching doctrine that is false or Protestant going against church tradition and teaching, but as I have said the Novus ordo is not Catholic, do not blame the authentic church established by God himself for the heresies of modernism brought about by Vatican 2 Vatican 2 was not even a real Council the purpose of Vatican 2 was to get rid of the authentic Catholic church and replace it with a new mass Martin Luther would have been proud they continue what he started
And lead us not into temptation.
And lead us away from temptation.
Does God lead us into temptation?
Jesus Christ spoke Aramaic. Is this a matter of poor translation? Or does the Pope want to change the meaning of the sentence itself?
James 1:13 New International Version, "When tempted, no one should say, "God is tempting me." For God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does he tempt anyone;"
Pope Francis is hoping to alter the words Catholics use when praying the Lord's prayer. Only so that it doesn't insinuate that God causes Sin. I have been told that the Pope's suggestion is the same as how Spanish speaking people have been praying it for a long time (probably based on a Spanish translation of the Scriptures). There is no intention to change Jesus' GREEK words in the Gospel according to Matthew. No one can alter the Greek scriptures, but the Episcopacy can educate the lay on how they should say the prescribed prayers in English. This is for their edification, so that none would have the incorrect idea that God made them sin. God tries people, but God doesn't lead people into temptation. There is a significant difference.
Matthew (or the KJV) is using poetic language. Matthew doesn't mean that God literally leads people into temptation. The plea is for protection from temptation, the wording in Matthew is awkward.
The change in how English speaking Catholics recite the Lord's prayer would ensure the idea presented by James is not unintentionally contradicted (see the quote above).
The New Living Translation of the scriptures (even if it isn't formal equivalence method of translating) translates that verse with the intended meaning. Matt 6:13 "And don't let us yield to temptation, but rescue us from the evil one." That is nearly exactly the same as what Pope Francis suggested. Therefore his rendering doesn't bring with it any novel doctrines.
The Pope didn't mean he intends to edit the Gospel of Matthew. He means he wants to change how English speaking Catholics have been reciting the Prayer. You wouldn't say that Luke's version of the Lord's prayer is evil and yet it is different from the Lord's Prayer in the Gospel of Matthew (fewer words but the same ideas). This indicates that the Lord's Prayer isn't stuck in a wrote word for word and parrot recitation. Otherwise, we all would be needing to recite it in Greek, to begin with.
Wow does he not fear God what is wrong with this man is he playing Russian roulette with his soul what is he thinking he supposed to live the whole world but it's all political we need to be very careful in these last days and pray that God will guide us to the truth and read our Bibles there we will find the answers God bless us all
.... Now a large herd of swine was feeding Mark's 5.11 so all the demons begged Him.
And Luke came down with 6.17 of them, with a crowd of his disciples, and with a great multitude of people from all Judea and Jerusalem and from the seacoast of Tyre and Sidon,
Who came to hear him and be healed of their diseases AS WELL AS those: who were tormented!
WITH UNCLEAN Spirits???( ILMAO)
Now, Luke 6 happened on the Second SABBATH after the First, that he went through the grain fields, and some of the Pharasees said to them:" Why Are You Doing what is not lawful to do on the Sabbath? SEE Ex.16:29!!
Matthew's 6 Take heed that You do not do Your charitable deeds before men to be seen by them.!!-
Otherwise YOU have no reward from Your Father in heaven....
((For from Israel is even this!!) And it is not God's prayer the calf of Samaria shall be broken to pieces.
But Isaiah's 26:7th Way of the Just is: "Uprightness"...
Or: " Most Upright"!
ALLAH AKBAR, YeS, in the way of Your Judgments..
YeS, by My Spirit within Me...
I Will Seek YOU early
For when YOUR Judgments Are in the earth- the stupid of the world will learn righteousness.:
DEUTERONOMY' 17:8 matter arises which is too hard for you to judge!
And YOU shall not bring 23:17 wages of a harlot or the price of a dog to the house of the Lord Your G-D for any vowed offering.( like marriage for example)
Levit. 22:27 and from the 8th day and
" Thereafter"- it shall be accepted as an offering made by FIRE to the Lord.
Much more than Roman' 5.9(65:) having now been justified by His blood, you shall be saved from wrath through the Pope.
For now, if anyone builds on This Foundation with gold-
silver, precious stones, wood, hay and straw will become clear, for the day of 1 Corinth. Will declare it, because it will be revealed by Fire, and the fire will test each one's work of what sort it is.
The problem with Pope Francis is the fact that he suffers from a protestant disposition, he has actually issued a stamp to commemorate the most infamous reprobate and greatest blasphemer in Christendom,l Martin Luther who invented the first artificial and synthetic religion of the protestant 60,000 plus sects. The Pope is not behaving as a Catholic and for those that hold strong to the truths of only religion created and hand delivered by Christ to the first Pope Saint Peter Pope Francis mocks and reproaches .For those protestants that criticise Pope Francis it is you he resembles the most.
GOD ALOWES SOME TEMPTATION WITH ENOUGH GRACES SUFFICIENT TO DEVELOP VIRTUE AND FAITH. IF WE DON’T PRACTICE VIRTUE, WE CAN NOT BE STRONG IN VIRTUE. THAT IS WHAT THE POPE SHOULD HAVE MADE VERY CLEAR , INSTEAD OF WEAKENING OUR CHANCES TO DEVELOP OUR VIRTUE
I have always laboured under the impression that as long as the world goes nutty and the churh stays aloof as a bastion of common sense and the protector of the treasure of faith-it will al be all right.
But now we suffer a libtard dopey popey, a "humble" pope too humble to talk to cardinals, too "humble" to adhere to faith, too humble to be honest. Now I begin to recognise that the Holy Spirit has suffered a pope to be elected who is just another libtard nutcase. Telling catholics to have less children and not to breed like "rabbits" was my first warning. And it's been downhill ever since.
Last year when the 'umble Frank had a homily in which he described his programme saying something along the lines of (not a quote) "a pastor does what he does without remorse and leaves when he is done" I was actually naive enough to take that as his annunciation of a decision to retire. But I was wrong. He was just saying "I'm only starting" and apparently the s**t will hit the fan...or the tambourine at the ceiling of the dome of st Peter's soooner or later.
We don't need a protestant libtard. We need a catholic pope.
I don't see any evil or harm in this modification. Inasmuch as the Prayer itself was the creative inspiration of a Human for the Church why not it be subject to inspired change by a Pope, if it doesn't change the original intent of the message? Having said that, I'm not Catholic and I don't trust the Church; the Vatican, but this announced possibility of changing 'Our Father' seems to me, benign or even Moot.
Thank you so much our beloved Pope Francis for pleading more of God's Loving Mercy & Protection for His children in this Darkened Times truly you are our Holy Father the Vicar of Christ who always protect & guide us...before"leads us NOT into temptation"...and now by Holy Spirit Guidance you Enlightened the Church once again to invoke the Merciful Father "DO NOT let us fall into temptation"...what a timely prayer in the face of a stronger foe at this END TIMES...for all the people who misunderstood your intentions & criticize & accuse you wrongly and say evil words against you...let us pray....Ave Maria, gratia plena, Dominus tecum.Benedicta tu in mulieribus, et benedictus fructus ventris tui IESUS.Sancta Maria Mater Dei, ora pronobis peccatoribus "SPREAD THE EFFECT OF GRACE OF THY FLAME OF LOVE OVERALL HUMANITY" nunc et in hora mortis nostrae.Amen...Holy Father St. Benedict may your prayer for the enemies of the church be with us, we invoke your prayers.mGAPPme.Amen
God did not stop the pope from praying the Lords prayer 2015. Pope Frankly did not want to say, Lead us not into temptation, for he does not recognize the Authority of The Almighty God Jesus! Nither was it because he is demon possessed! It is because he is
THE MAN OF SIN. In the place of Christ! Imitating Christ, Anti-Christ, as in place of and opposite to.
O LUCIFER THE BABYLON KING
WITH YOUR TRIPLE CROWN
AND YOUR BROKEN WING
MAN OF SIN, O ANTICHRIST
BEFORE ALL MAN
HOW YOU HIDE IN SIGHT
O SATAN AND YOU ALONE
YOU WHO SITS UPON GODS THRONE
O YOU THE ONE OF THE NIGHT
BEFORE CREATION GOD TAKES YOUR LIFE
Pope Franny= God did not create the world in 6 days, (HENCE HE DID NOT REST ON THE SABBATH?) God is not a WIZARD with a Magick Wand??
This is pure Jealousy of God. "Do you think he had a magick wand"? Note that pope frankly is saying this to all the children who have read Harry Potter? All Potter books are penned by Jesuits, who are all wizards in training, with mental exercises ect ect. These exercise where worked on and developed by Aleister Crowley, who coin the word, Magick? Crowley is the False Prophet of the new Aeon, as they believed it to be, in their delusion, ISAIAH 16 They shall be ashamed, and also confounded, all of them: they shall go to confusion together that are makers of idols!
Lord Jesus returns soon. as he returns He pours his Spirit out before him to prepare for his return in his Glory. The Lord Jesus has confounded, all of them: into confusion together. Their tongues trip over their own words now. Thy are their now 4ALL2C, so that all awake from their deceptions now. All man needs the Gospel now and Our Lords instruction. MATTHEW 6.6 is how ALL CHRISTIANS are directed to pray now. Only through a PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP with The Lord God Jesus can Any man receive The Lords Holy Spirit? in accord with The Lords WILL!
Over 1700 hundred years man has been deceived into disobeying the Lord Gods instruction. this has been done to rob man of his INDIVIDUAL RELATIONSHIP WITH THE FATHER & SON, who Our Lord & God Jesus tells us, will both abode with any Individual who will pickup his mat and walk. This is the Trinity and the only way to know is through the HOLY SPIRIT. For through the Comforter both the Father and Son & Holy Spirit are united in man. Now is the Dawn of Our Lords Sabbath Reign. The True Morning Star shines on all man now. A day when all men walk individually with their One and only Living God. Man Woman & child, all children in their God, who returns to teach us all now, God Abodes with & in man! here on earth in Gods Kingdom. THY WILL BE DONE ON EARTH AS IT IS IN HEAVEN! This is as or Lord & God Jesus instructed us all to pray along the lines of, in His Gospel.
Brothers and Sisters in Christ Jesus, all things change now under Our Lords rule. Those he chooses he provides for as they need. They need not rehearse words or guess, while doing the Will of the Father. They do not do their charity in public, nor ask for Donations, or followers, for Our Lord provides for all needs to all of his flock!! Their message is simple! It is The Gospel of John first and fore most. And always under the instruction of Our Lord God Jesus in his Teaching on the mount. Matthew 6.6
To see through the 666 Man of Sin, Matthew 6.6 go within.
Glory be to Our Lord God Jesus who is returning now, as I type these words to all who would follow, all who's name be in His Book of Life. Prepare the Higher way for the Lords feet to travel. Come out of her my people, partake no more of her evil.
Now in order to come out you all must Individually go with in. Matthew 6.6 to put an end to Sin.
Our Lords Sabbath Reign Begins
5 I am the Lord, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me:
6 That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. I am the Lord, and there is none else.
7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.
8 Drop down, ye heavens, from above, and let the skies pour down righteousness: let the earth open, and let them bring forth salvation, and let righteousness spring up together; I the Lord have created it.
POPE FRANCIS & SATAN WANT TO CHANGE THE PRAYER OUR LORD *GOD JESUS* GAVE TO ALL OF HIS CREATION?
In Christ Jesus King of kings Lord of lords
The mighty God
The everlasting Father
The Prince of Peace
And soon returning!
I EL I JAH
The Lord's prayer is an example of a prayer as prescribed by YHWH Himself. I doubt His prayer needs correction. One thing I notice about the Lord's Prayer is that everything that Yahshua prayed is according to the will of the Father. It is the will of the Father to not lead us into temptation as he does not tempt us but our own fleshly desires do. To ask Our Father to keep us from falling into temptation is asking him to take free-will from us. I haven't exactly figured out what the angle is that the Pope needs to change this verse but rest assured it is not for our good
“Lead us not into temptation.” James 1:13 “makes clear that God does not tempt. God cannot be tempted with evil, nor does God tempt anyone. Enticement to sin comes from own's desires.”
And if at times our efforts and works seem to fail and produce no fruit, we need to remember that we are followers of Jesus . . . and his life, HUMANLY SPEAKING, ended in failure, in the failure of the CROSS.
The cross shows us a different way of measuring success.
Next time read the whole speech instead of slinging one verse the Pope said.
Did a Bible recall start yet? They are gonna have to send out a lot of updated Bibles around the world. Lmao. We should start a case suit saying that this caused us all personal anguish and unanswered prayers. Anyone know. Good attorney! Ha ha
The Pope is only talking of the TRANSLATION of this line and he is not the first one to do so. If this is changing scripture, then you had better throw away your bibles because they have all been translated more than once.
Do people not know that The Lord's Prayer didn't just appear in the world in ENGLISH? It's a translation of a translation of a translation of a prayer made up by MEN. Come on you guys - don't pretend, just so you can do a bit more fear-mongering and subscription selling.
Our father who art in heaven (not which) art in heaven; in my Douay Version of the Bible.
[The Lord's Prayer] Luke 11:4 and forgive us our sins, for we also forgive everyone who is indebted to us. And lead us not into temptation.' "
CHAP. 11. VER. 1-4 Luke gives only five petitions of the Our Father, whereas there are seven in the first Gospel.
The previous petition in the standard Catholic version reads “and forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us.” That’s not what the Greek literally says. It says, “And forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors” (Mt 6:12). Debts are a Semitic metaphor for sins, and the English translators have rendered this non-literally as “trespasses” to make the concept clearer to English-speakers. Luke did the same thing for Greek-speakers in his version of the Lord’s Prayer, where this petition reads, “and forgive us our sins, for we ourselves forgive every one who is indebted to us” (Lk 11:4). Notice how Luke shifts the first reference to “debts” to “sins” to make the meaning clearer. Also note that, since Luke is divinely inspired, God doesn’t have a fundamental problem with using less literal translations to help people understand.
Not only do English-speaking Catholics use “trespasses” where Protestants use “debts,” English-speaking Protestants also typically add a coda at the end: "For thine is the kingdom and the power and the glory, for ever." That’s not in the original Greek manuscripts and apparently started in the liturgy and then crept into some later copies of Matthew, which were used by Protestant translators early on. You might think is surely a violation of God’s will for Christians to be using different versions of the Lord’s Prayer but the Bible indicates otherwise. There have been differences in how the Lord’s Prayer is said going all the way back to the beginning.
We know that in the first century some Greek-speakers were using Matthew’s version (6:9-13) but other Greek-speakers (especially those evangelized by St. Paul) used a quite different and shorter version (Lk 11:2-4). There might be a certain desirability for all Christians to be able to say the same version of the same prayer, but think about what we’ve got here: Two different divinely inspired versions of the prayer.
The standard Spanish and Portuguese translations already have the equivalent of “Do not let us fall into temptation.” The French are just doing the same thing now. You should be able to recognize the points made above—which are not controversial—and the pope isn’t planning on doing anything at all here, much less anything that would affect them.
Protestants also have different versions of the Lord’s Prayer in circulation in their own communities. Some use the version straight out of the King James—with old-fashioned words like “art” and “Thy.” But others use more modern language versions, with terms like “is” and “your.” For that matter, some less-literal Protestant translations already vary the last petition along the lines discussed above (check NLT, GWT, CEV, NLV).
Conclusion: Nobody is definitively in the right or in the wrong. The divinely inspired word of God gives us two very different versions of the Lord’s Prayer, which shows us that God does not mind different versions being in circulation. Further, one of these inspired versions (Luke’s) uses a less literal translation of Jesus’ original Aramaic (i.e., “sins” instead of “debts”), so God doesn’t have a fundamental problem with less literal translations as a way of helping people understand what they are saying. We can acknowledge the benefits of having a common version we use together in the liturgy, and personally, I wouldn’t favor changing the English version of it.
In no way is the Pope trying to change scripture, or the prayer itself. English is one of the furthest translations of Aramaic and therefore very difficult to translate the exact "words of Jesus Christ". Jesus does NOT LEAD us into temptation But can keep us from FALLING into temptation. I must add that reading the Bible literally opens a can of worms and posibly discredits the entire collection of books. Please do some research before you post hateful comments (the very thing that divides christians across the world. Many of you do not realize what you are saying because you do not do the research needed for an accurate comment. I assume that the majority of the absurd comments are made by people who don't even know that Catholicism is the first "christian" denomination in existence. Peter was the first pope and there is a line of succession all the way down for over 2000 years to pope Francis. These are not my opinions but facts that can be tracked. I urge anybody curious to do some research. Read about the fathers of the church and learn a little about Catholicism. Study the protestant reformation and raise questions about the denomination that you have been brought up in. You will be amazed by what you learn.
What does he mean God does not tempt us? Think! The tree of knowledge. Why put the tree there if he didn't want us to eat from it? The pope is a false prophet. I wish the Catholics would wake up already. REVELATION 22:18-19.
Don't listen to the catholic priests or their followers false teachings... read the Bible for yourself NO MATTER what church you belong to in order to verify for yourself if they are teaching God's complete word or they are only teaching in part or otherwise distorting it. When we all bow before God in the end, no one will have excuse to say how they were tricked into believing lies.
The Word of God teaches for us to test all things to His Word, therefor those who won't agree with anyone who says the pope and their teachings are wicked, it is your responsibility to provide the scriptures taken from the Holy Bible that gives clear/decisive meaning to back up your beliefs.
Where does it say that the pope or anyone else has authority to completely change the Word of God?
Where does the decisive Word of God in the Bible say we are to bow before, kiss the feet, present prayer beads, and talk to statues of Mary and the saints asking them to pass prayers to God?
Where does it say we are to call anyone in or out of the church, father?
18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: 19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. 20 He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.
For there is one God, and one mediator (medium) between God and men, the man Christ Jesus
6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me, Jesus Christ. 7 “If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also; from now on you know Him, and have seen Him.” 13 “Whatever you ask in My name, that will I do, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14 “If you ask Me anything in My name, I will do it. 16 “I will ask the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may be with you forever; 17 that is the Spirit of truth (the Holy Spirit), whom the world cannot receive, because it does not see Jesus or know Him, but you know Him because He abides with you and will be in you
9 and call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.
"But thou, when you pray, enter into thy closet, and when you hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret;"
27 As Jesus was saying these things, a woman in the crowd called out, “Blessed is the mother who gave you birth and nursed you.” 28 He replied, “Blessed rather are those who hear the word of God and obey it.”
Of what value is an idol carved by a craftsman? Or an image that teaches lies? For the one who makes it trusts in his own creation; he makes idols that cannot speak
11 Jesus is the stone you builders rejected, which has become the cornerstone. 12 Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to mankind by which we must be saved.”
O LORD our God, other masters besides You have ruled us; But through You alone we confess Your name.
For whoever is joined with all the living, there is hope; surely a live dog is better than a dead lion. For the living know they will die; but the dead do not know anything, nor have they any longer a reward. Indeed their love, their hate and their zeal have already perished, and they will no longer have a share in all that is done under the sun
Instead, you have set yourself up against the Lord of heaven. You had the goblets from his temple brought to you, and you and your nobles, your wives and your concubines drank wine from them. You praised the gods of silver and gold, of bronze, iron, wood and stone, which cannot see or hear or understand. But you did not honor the God who holds in his hand your life and all your ways.
I don't agree with the pope. But please don't criticize just to criticize. In Spanish we pray " and don't let us fall into temptation. Seems to me he didn't finish the prayer because other people were praying too. I'm not a catholic anymore but also be fair.
I left the Catholic church and I am glad I did. This so against the word of God. The pope cannot change the words of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. I pray for Catholics to awake and see what that church represents. Come out of her my people that you do not partake in her sins...
I can't see any reason for this moral man who we call Pope , I need no man before me and the Lord Jesus Christ . I'll pray to my Savior Jesus Christ in my own way and follow my tradition's saying the Lord's Prayer also know as Our Father. The Pope is wrong once again and I for one won't change the way I pray to my Lord Jesus Christ, I trust my Bible , but i don't trust this Pope. Jesus Christ is my Savior period and I love him with all my heart and he want's me to change my way of praying to him 'he'll tell me . Praise to you Lord Jesus Christ now and forever.
How quickly we forget. When he came to America in the fall of 2015. He did claim he came in his own name, so that makes it 3 significant instances he showed his true colors. Check it out.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EI_tHitLtLo.
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